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I predict that U.S. coalition forces will be forced to withdraw from Iraq before bush finishes 4 more years of idiocy. Fullujah demonstrated how overwhelming firepower means nothing. There are graveyards of choppers and armoured vehicles to attest to this littered outside that city. Things at the moment are so bad they are having to airdrop supplies, the trucks were hauling in 10 times more than what they are getting now, which means the troops are low on water and ammo. It's a done deal, staying there any longer is just plain stupid but we have stupid people running the country who can't see anything past a doller sign $ in terms of this Global theft attempt of Iraq's oil wealth. Even the draft won't remedy the situation. The end of Empire may come sooner than expected.
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Re: Lost War
Sat, January 29, 2005 - 8:43 AMWin?...Lose?...It doesn't matter...Vietnam was a glorious victory for those who instigated, escalated, prosecuted and profitted.
The 'outcome' is a non-issue...the engagement and all that comes with it is the end in and of itself. Ask yourself...Self, 'Cui Buono?'
-FK
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Re: Lost War
Sat, January 29, 2005 - 8:47 AMFK from "the field"...10 November 2004
The ‘Battle ’now taking place in Fallujah is what is known as MOUT or Military operations in urban terrain. MOUT has a funneling down effect on a firefight which is known to exaggerate the intensity and cause high casualty rates on both sides.
And yet both coalition and insurgent casualties in Fallujah have been nominal to say the very least. And why should it be otherwise?
These ‘Insurgents ’are essentially guerillas who are organized into highly motivated and highly mobile three-man cells. It is in their doctrine to use tactics such as terrorism, sabotage, hostage taking, etc. It is contrary to their purpose if not suicidal to attempt to defend a position against an overwhelmingly larger conventional force such as the U.S. Marines ….once again: Guerillas hit and run, they do not defend ground, there are no ‘insurgents ’in Fallujah.
I think the war-makers or dog waggers or whatever should at least get their shit straight if they ’re going to sell this lemon to the American public.
As for me ….The Fallujah operation is fiction ….pure, unadultered bullshit, and as with everything since 9-11, it stinks to high heaven.
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Re: Lost War
Sat, January 29, 2005 - 9:03 AM"War itself is the basic social system, within which other secondary modes of social organization conflict or conspire...
It must be emphasized that the precedence if a society's war-making potential over it's other characteristics is not the result of the 'Threat' presumed to exist at any one time...This is the reverse of the basic situation; 'Threats' against the 'national interest' are usually created or accelerated to meet the changing needs of the war system...
...Repeated in it's formal reccomendations, that suggest that the long-range planning and 'budgeting' of the 'optimum' number of lives to be destroyed annually in overt warfare is high on the Group's list of priorities for government action."
-Leonard C. Lewin
Report from Iron Mountain
On the possibility and
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Re: Lost War
Sat, January 29, 2005 - 5:29 PMFisherking, do you mean to say that the war is justified with your quotes? I'm trying to find the common thread here. -
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Re: Lost War
Mon, January 31, 2005 - 5:27 AMWords like 'Justified' do not apply here...The common thread is that Politics is power, nothing more, and the authority of the state over it's people lies in it's war powers.
Do you remember this...? :
...There will be war, crime, unemployment, corruption regardless of who is president because there is a power behind the throne of this nation and there has been for a long, long time. If you want to put a face on the Devil, if you want to imagine evil incarnate...Then this is your huckleberry.
If my antagonist Medski and myself have anything at all in common..it is this: As far as this power Elite is concerned, we are both dispensable.
The members of the power elite look out from their battlements at the masses and tremble for their own survival...and make no mistake..they will survive even if the rest of us must perish in flames.
To rationalize their actions to themselves, The 'High Cabal' subscribe to a twisted tripartate of Philosophical hypotheses:
1. Heisenbergs 'God rolls the dice and we take it from there' theory of determination which dispells for them any notion of cosmic law.
2. Darwins 'Survival of the fittest', being themselves, Who else?
3. Malthusian Economics, i.e. 'The food supply is growing at an arithmatical rate, while the population continues growning at a geometrical rate, So there is just not enough to go around.
Armed with this 'weltanshaung', they give themselves and eachother carte blanche to continue to scare the shit out of us and bury us all in this tomb of three dimensional space/time.
remember this when you cast your vote, and remember that your birthright is not a choice of 'the lesser of two evils' appointed by Usurping devils on Earth...But of a King of Divine Origin, a 'Nautonnier' who reigns and serves without ruling.
the most oft repeated phrase in the New Testament comes from the mouth of one of these very Kings :'Fear Not'.
So I say to you, my friends, Behold the wasteland, but Fear Not, dispence with discretion and ask the question..'What Ails You My Brother'...and do not forget your suffering, wounded King.
-FK -
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Wed, February 2, 2005 - 12:41 PMI'm familiar with the concepts. I check for the philosophy young Stanislavski the method man actor frozen reactor Nietsche said GOD IS DEAD but that's a myth the pole shift is earth magnetics the SUN returns to the earth in the age of aquarius to reclaim the throne and make all things new.
When Africa is free the whole world is free. Maintain the spirituality the papacy is wicked foul molestation is wild I check for the KATO institute many thinktanks to contemplate the fate of third world bloodsuckers the confusion is maintained by media fascistic dictatorship money grips are exchanged by the chosen few of alien lizard bloodlines to keep the blood BLUE.
Camelot is smokin hot they flamin in Boston Mass. why the hell you think the Patriots keep winnin the Superbowl is real COLD. I manifest the I SELF THATS UNIVERSAL the soul character is the Mantan from a forgotten land still asleep but yet awake. Who is the power elite the politics are no longer relevant. Blood in blood out that's the only language the devil understands. Until the masses wake up they will continue to suffer the oppression of the grafted man all things go in a cipher back to the source of the conflict african shores. I am more closer to Jomo Kenyatta than koonta kintay perhaps a rebel like Bobby Seale a reflection of scientifical madness I keeps it real.
Fuck a vote maintain your position maintain your order. You right it's not about black and white but then again did you see Passion of the Christ
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Re: Lost War
Sat, January 29, 2005 - 4:42 PMWhether we can win this war or not is SO not the reason we are there, and never has been. They never cared if our troops had what they needed or if the insurgents would ever stop trying to surge. "They" are getting exactly what they wanted out of the war, and we won't leave Iraq until they stop getting it, regardless of winning or losing the military aspect.
This Empire has been defunct for awhile now. All of the truly important world decisions are being made without our input, leaving the future to others. -
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Re: Lost War
Sat, January 29, 2005 - 5:31 PMPNAC/ War Mongers Oil Profiteers took over the White House in the late 90's when they were distracting you with all that bullshit about the stain on the blue dress and whether or not Lewinsky swallowed.
By the time GEE-DUB made his move on the capital you was sound asleep. 9/11 woke you up for a minute but reality TV and plenty of drugs got you comatose again. Welcome to 1984. -
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Re: Lost War
Sat, January 29, 2005 - 5:36 PMLOL
I have no TV, don't do drugs, and I know that 9/11 was allowed to happen, perhaps even encouraged.
And frankly, I would rather be blown out of the air by terrorists than ever submit to being searched in an airport again. Terrorists don't scare me. Losing my freedoms under the guise of "protection" I never asked for and don't want, does scare me. Of course, nobody asked me. They told me I was scared and followed it up with a new season of American Idol and Cialis.
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Re: Lost War
Sat, January 29, 2005 - 6:08 PM/frankly, I would rather be blown out of the air by terrorists than ever submit to being searched in an airport again./
Oh man, that's about the craziest shit I ever did hear. You sure about the drugs? -
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Re: Lost War
Sat, January 29, 2005 - 6:32 PMI suppose what I meant to say was that I would rather take the risk of being blown out of the air by terrorists than be searched at an airport again.
Of course, you may disagree with me and STILL think I'm crazy, but that's a different story altogether. -
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Re: Lost War
Mon, January 31, 2005 - 11:42 AMA rare and supressed glimpse at one of the true losers in this War...
newjersey.tribe.net/template...ext/tribe -
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Re: Lost War
Wed, February 2, 2005 - 12:30 PMDoesn't dude qualify as collateral damage.
Pretty rad photo. Where did you rip that one from. I usually check out B-Ill dot.com for all of my Iraqi snapshots. Plenty of nonsensical bloodshed to go around. No rhyme or reason for the shit I agree. Only real reason is to make Kellog Brown and Root richer.
JP MORGAN CHASE/Rothschild/Rockefeller bandits have been involved in every major conflict since they started taking stats on this type shiz.
Prescott Bush maintained the NAZI connect well after the born on date expired during WW2 the current conflict is a well documented rehash of whitey supremacy world wide global hegemony
Jiminy Snickets an Unfortunate series of events.
Turn off the TV FOX News bought and payed for by Murdoch and affiliated monopolies the Skull and Bones got dusted off they are more distraction for the walking dead zombies of internet conspiracy there is no conspiracy BUSHIT is the lick. Niggaz love BUSH that's why ya'll re-elected him. -
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Re: Lost War
Wed, February 2, 2005 - 12:41 PMI clipped the photo from the 'Gulf News', an English newspaper published in Abudhabi.
Have you considered dropping the Stokely Charmichael act and trying to transcend all of this shit? Militantism is just another facet of the big problem.
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Re: Lost War
Wed, February 2, 2005 - 12:44 PM--Have you considered dropping the Stokely Charmichael act and trying to transcend all of this shit? Militantism is just another facet of the big problem.--
Yea I thought about it. But everybody needs a routine I am just fulfilling a need on tribe. Most people that know me know I don't give a damn who you are how you look. I talk like Malcom but I'm closer to El Hajj. I am only here to spark the thought process when people start talking about this stuff again my job is done. I know that you can relate to that King.
Good lookin out on the group btw. -
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Re: Lost War
Sun, February 6, 2005 - 9:01 AMHumans are violent little monsters and there is a
large numbers of them in the world who delight to
slay, no matter who is being killed. These days, most
of the elite monsters are looking for ways to curb
populations because they want all the dwindling resources for themselves and their inbred offspring. A biological attack, a black
plague is the logical solution.
www.geocities.com/thomas_ro.../Dark.html
The Iraq war was a failure from the git go. The depleted uranium will eventually kill most of the populace through mutation and cancer as well as the troops from the U.S. Oil companies ( American citizens have no troops ) will die of cancer and health problems but don't worry, the republicans cut their health benefits to show how much they care about them.
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